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		<title>I took that image &#8211; inspiration or plagiarism?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the challenges that I guess many of us face on a photo workshop is finding the unique angle or shot that allows our own style or approach to be translated into a compelling image, especially when 8 other of your new found photo friends are standing next to you trying to create the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-577.jpg"><img src="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-577-300x199.jpg" alt="" title="Cairo-pyramidsx800-577" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1283" /></a>One of the challenges that I guess many of us face on a photo workshop is finding the unique angle or shot that allows our own style or approach to be translated into a compelling image, especially when 8 other of your new found photo friends are standing next to you trying to create the identical image.</p>
<p>As many of you know,<a href="http://www.digitaltrekker.com"> Matt Brandon</a> and I have been scouting for potential workshop locations In Egypt this past week or so and at times we both wanted to take the same image from the same location at the same time. Indeed at a quick glance at some of the images that we have both posted on our respective blogs they might look identical. Look closely though at those images and the differences start to appear.</p>
<p>We had a laugh about it but we also discussed which images each of us would put up on our blog or Facebook so that we didn’t “steal each others thunder” – as they say in England. But it made me think back to some discussions and experiences I had had on a workshop recently with <a href="http://www.pixelatedimage.com">David duChemin</a> and<a href="http://www.jeffreychapman.com"> Jeffrey Chapman</a>, where it felt at times that I was following David around letting him create the compelling image and then I would pole up, ask him what he was doing and think “ooh, I like that” and then set about creating a similar version.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-3611.jpg"><img src="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-3611-300x199.jpg" alt="" title="Cairo-pyramidsx800-361" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1293" /></a>Now I should say at this point that I was not DELIBERATELY following David around, nor was intent on copycatting, but in these tiny seaside towns (population:4 old ladies, 3 vespas and a black cat) it was difficult not to bump into each other. My approach was to try and learn from David what he had seen, what aesthetic he was considering, what setting he was thinking about etc as he composed his image. </p>
<p>Those of you that know David will realize that he is incredibly generous about sharing ideas and helping others to learn. He would show me his image on the back of his camera, discuss with me what lens he had selected, what f-stop he had chosen or what to look out for and then allow me to have a go. And Matt, Jeffrey, Gavin and many others that run these sorts of workshops all share this ethos.</p>
<p>And the result? Well once or twice I got close to a duChemin or Brandon “original”, but mostly they became my images that I had sweated over, albeit inspired by someone else. But mostly – and this recent trip with Matt Brandon was no exception &#8211; I just learned a whole lot. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-4471.jpg"><img src="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-4471-300x199.jpg" alt="" title="Cairo-pyramidsx800-447" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1294" /></a>I learned how to really look within the Frame: what was the background doing? What tonal range was I looking at and what options did I have? Was there any hot spot or distraction that would change the viewers [perception of the image? Was I telling a story? Was I using the right focal length to draw the eye or did I have enough visual mass or negative space to balance the image?</p>
<p>Now I wouldn’t have got all of that insight If I had just copied the image carte blanche and if I hadn’t asked – and those of you going on a workshop this year, never be afraid to ask. What you think is a dumb question is only dumb if you don’t ask it.  I could have got some of that knowledge or inspiration by reading, but the impact was so much greater when it was a practical example, on the ground, camera in hand. And that was when I started to learn. To me each of these images became sketches that I want to adapt and to make my own, probably at a different time and in a different country.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-601.jpg"><img src="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-601-300x199.jpg" alt="" title="Cairo-pyramidsx800-601" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1284" /></a>So although Matt and I might have very similar images from our few days together, we interpreted the scenes we saw differently. Our angles were different, our light was different, our choice of lens was different (I always seem to be coveting Matt’s 85mm f1.2 lens. I am sure there is a commandment about that: “thou shalt not covet another man’s lens”!) and our post-processing is different.</p>
<p>So the morale of the post is what? Well if your intent is to learn, to be inspired by a great image and to use that as a vehicle to further your own vision, then go ahead, emulate, practice, ask copy whatever. If the person is there then for heaven sakes ask them to explain things to you. In my experience photographers are happy to help fellow enthusiasts.</p>
<p>If your intent is to copy without your own subjective vision, or to deliberately mislead, then good luck to you. I suspect you will still be doing that in a few years time – if you have not been caught and had the copyright law thrown at you &#8211; whilst the rest of us have moved on and developed our own individual style or vision.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800-.jpg"><img src="http://www.marcoryanphotography.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Cairo-pyramidsx800--300x199.jpg" alt="" title="Cairo-pyramidsx800-" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1288" /></a>So to Matt – thanks for sharing, for taking the time to explain and for continuing to inspire. I love the image of the camels walking down the hill with Cairo in the background – but I still prefer his! Check out his<a href="http://www.thedigitaltrekker.com/2010/06/go-with-the-flow-or-in-this-case-the-light/"> recent blog </a>to see his (better) version and get inspired.</p>
<p>Then go out and take some fun pictures.</p>
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